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Day 3 · Interview 07 of 1411:24 AM · Moscone West

Fela Akinse

Founder, Trotta

Stopping social-engineering attacks before they reach people or their AI agents.

The full conversation

10:34 · every question and answer, tightened. Tap a line to jump to it.

The short version

3:37 · Fela's answers, condensed.

Clips

5 short clips, captioned, in vertical and widescreen. Free to download and repost.

Drove 36 hours. Told no one.

“I would say I lived in Kentucky for one year. And once I got the insight about that, security is the bane of AI. And that's a sustainable problem. I started driving. So I drove from Kentucky to San Francisco for 36 hours…”

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"I don't hack computers. I hack humans."

“So what we see here is that the marginal cost of deploying an attack is going down to zero because everybody has access to even large language models that they shouldn't have access to. By the time, so marginal cost is r…”

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Trained staff still click

“What we've seen here is that even after training, there's 92% probability of clicking on a new attack. And so it means that that doesn't work. And so it's the reason we started thinking that, why do I even need to see th…”

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30 scam calls a day

“So I came to the U.S. two years, two months ago, and I had gone to register insurance on the wrong platform. So I'd been receiving at least 30 different calls from scammers every day for the next three months. And I felt…”

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Own nothing, lose nothing

“Well, I came from a very poor background and for me, I'm like, okay, in the end, what, what does it really cost me if I lose everything? it cost me nothing because I own nothing before so if I go back to nothing I'm stil…”

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